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Old December 4th, 2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Advanced Muay Thai Techniques

i just read a bit on a book called advanced Muay Thai Techniques on my lunch break and i thought there was some really cool tips for counter attacks and attacks that i thought i should share.

- if some one is about to round house kick you, teep their supporting foot
- if someone straight punches you, block with the mirror side arm and then slide the arm over their arm and punch their face
- if someone is about to straight punch you, step into it while doing a upper block and then throw and upper cut to their chin.
- feign a round house, but last minute pull it in an do a teep to the face
- feign a teep, and if they lower their guard slightly, instead of kicking, use the momentum to step forward into a straight punch.

from the clinch (i found these the most interesting):

- if the person is taller than you, get an undergrip position and wrap your arms tight around their rib cage to hinder their breathing. then, while maintaining tight pressure, push their rib cage away from you to open up a knee. (NOTE: if their breathing is not restricted they may find it easy to counter attack)
- if some one has you in a really tight grip, pulling your neck down and making it hard to breathe, turn your hips into them while thrusting up your (inside) arm through their grip. this should allow you to stand up in more control and breathe better. the arm that is thrust up is then used to slam down an elbow to their neck.
- use a thigh kick or a tailbone kick when in the clinch because they can not block their back. (not sure if allowed in competition rules)
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Interesting techniques, thank you for sharing!!
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Every defense is a set up for attack. That's what makes MT so effective.
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yeah... and every attack or defence is designed to set the momentum of the body up for a new move. it is very much like chess.... but funner.
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You'll find that in many SE Asian styles, this idea of setting up continuous flow is an important thing. It exists in every martial arts, but SE Asian ones tend to to really focus upon it.
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really what other MAs?

you are right about the flow. my ajarn would always stress that your last move should "close the door" (i think that was the phrase he used....) anyway, it means that your last move should swing your body weight back into your fighting stance. so if you throw a cross you want to end with a jab or lead hook so that your weight transfers back.
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really what other MAs?

you are right about the flow. my ajarn would always stress that your last move should "close the door" (i think that was the phrase he used....) anyway, it means that your last move should swing your body weight back into your fighting stance. so if you throw a cross you want to end with a jab or lead hook so that your weight transfers back.
SE Asian MA; FMA, MT and Silat. A number of places actually teach all three together because all these systems have an emphasis on flow. A lot of techniques use axial rotation and torque. This differs from a say Japanese and Korean schools who have a lot more linearality and chambering. Or say, Chinese Kung Fu which utilize a fair degree of expansion and contraction energy. Of course this is all generalization. For example the Karate school of Wado-Ryu uses a lot of circular energy while many Kun-Tao Kung Fu schools have integrated so much of Silat that there are more similarities than differences.
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hapkido is all about flow.... that is pretty much what the name means: the art of controlling the flow of energy
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hapkido is all about flow.... that is pretty much what the name means: the art of controlling the flow of energy
Haven't seen much HKD mostly TKD, but considering it utilities principles of Aikido (or so I've heard), I can see how it would also focus on flow. As I said, my statement was a generalization based on the most common martial arts of those regions that are available in Western circles (or at least my own country). Also, it is all comparative. All MArts should utilize flow but some emphasize it more. For example, in MT, the chambering action often eventuates from a previous movement (such as leg checking or even feint), whereas in TKD and Karate, the chamber is started as part of the move itself.
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i see your point.... with HKD you are right about the kicks. the punches use flow, but not the kicks. it is mostly the SD that concentrates on flow....

and yes it evolved from aikido.
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