Wing Chun Kung Fu

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by disgruntled

i thought that wing chung was a really interesting art. i was thinking of going into it, but i found that it was just too similar to some other things i have done.

what is your warm-up like? that was the only thing that i did not like about wing chung, the class (that i took anyway) was not very intense. i did the whole class without breaking a sweat.

What other arts have you done that are similar?? If you learn the Wing Chun hands, you can " pick up" any other art 10 times faster...you will not find martial artists with better hands than Wing Chun people...and Jeet June DO...and I don't mean beginners...but practitioners that have been doing the art for a while...if you look closely at videos, you will see what I mean...some others are good, but not finely tuned like these hands...of course, if you take that training and lay Filipino arts and Western boxing on top of the original foundation, you will have superb hand skills...
Anyway, hope this helps some...I have been thru 36 different arts & systems over the last 35 years and that is my take and input for you...
So train and enjoy the journey... I'm down in the swamplands of Louisiana...if you're ever in the area, give me a shout...cqbspartan@yahoo.com Carl

For every one hundred men you send us,
Ten should not even be here.
Eighty are nothing but targets.
Nine of them are real fighters;
We are lucky to have them, they the battle make.
Ah, but the one. One of them is a warrior.
And he will bring the others back.

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by eYoon

just thought i'd make a topic about this since i just recently started goin to this wing chun place. apparently the sifu there is a student of william cheung who was the student of yip man.

My advice is...learn the Wing Chun...you will not find better martial arts hands than those of Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do(whose foundation is Wing Chun) practitioners...some others are good, but not like the Wing Chun...if you look closely at videos and compare, you will see what I mean...of course, if you lay some Filipino hand training and Western Boxing on top of the Wing Chun base, you will have the most superb hands ...
Hope this helps...I have trained and taught 36 different arts & combative system over the last 35 years...so anyway, that is just my take & input for you on what I've seen...I'm in the swamplands of south Louisiana ...if you're ever in the area, give me a shout...cqbspartan@yahoo.com.........Carl

For every one hundred men you send us,
Ten should not even be here.
Eighty are nothing but targets.
Nine of them are real fighters;
We are lucky to have them, they the battle make.
Ah, but the one. One of them is a warrior.
And he will bring the others back.

[disgruntled]

Originally Posted by Spartan

What other arts have you done that are similar?? If you learn the Wing Chun hands, you can " pick up" any other art 10 times faster...you will not find martial artists with better hands than Wing Chun people...and Jeet June DO...and I don't mean beginners...but practitioners that have been doing the art for a while...if you look closely at videos, you will see what I mean...some others are good, but not finely tuned like these hands...of course, if you take that training and lay Filipino arts and Western boxing on top of the original foundation, you will have superb hand skills...

i meant similar in the sense of types of techniques i am comfortable with... i was looking for a new MA to really push myself out of my comfort zone. they dealt a lot with energy control and forms, which i have done a lot with in Hapkido, so i was not interested in doing more of the same.... not at this time anyway, maybe in the future.

[eYoon]

Originally Posted by disgruntled

i meant similar in the sense of types of techniques i am comfortable with... i was looking for a new MA to really push myself out of my comfort zone. they dealt a lot with energy control and forms, which i have done a lot with in Hapkido, so i was not interested in doing more of the same.... not at this time anyway, maybe in the future.

having done both hapkido and wing chun, i can tell u that from my experience at least, the two arts are very very different

[sirdarksol]

Originally Posted by disgruntled

i meant similar in the sense of types of techniques i am comfortable with... i was looking for a new MA to really push myself out of my comfort zone. they dealt a lot with energy control and forms, which i have done a lot with in Hapkido, so i was not interested in doing more of the same.... not at this time anyway, maybe in the future.

I see what you're getting at. I'm kind of the opposite. I have done karate, which does primarily striking (although we do learn some grappling/control techniques). If I take another unarmed art, I am going to force myself to go into judo, jujitsu, or aikido in order to strengthen my ability to grapple/redirect energy and overcome my fear of fighting in close.

[disgruntled]

Originally Posted by eYoon

having done both hapkido and wing chun, i can tell u that from my experience at least, the two arts are very very different

ok, let me try to clear up the confussion again....

i guess i meant more what Sirdarksol said... i wanted to take a MA that focused around the aspects of hapkido that i wanted to improve. i am very comfortable with the internal aspects of hapkido and the concept of energy redirection.... and wing chung focuses on those concepts, although the techniques might differ, it is the same basic principals and concepts that you apply. i did not feel i needed to work on those aspects. i was looking for something different from a more internal approach.

obviously all MAs are internal, but i wanted something with less of a focus on that aspect not more of a focus on internal aspects like wing chung.

[eYoon]

Originally Posted by disgruntled

ok, let me try to clear up the confussion again....

i guess i meant more what Sirdarksol said... i wanted to take a MA that focused around the aspects of hapkido that i wanted to improve. i am very comfortable with the internal aspects of hapkido and the concept of energy redirection.... and wing chung focuses on those concepts, although the techniques might differ, it is the same basic principals and concepts that you apply. i did not feel i needed to work on those aspects. i was looking for something different from a more internal approach.

obviously all MAs are internal, but i wanted something with less of a focus on that aspect not more of a focus on internal aspects like wing chung.

true that. so now ur muay thai now right? makes sense.

altho i must say, even tho u might never expect this from wing chun... at the school i'm at right now, some of the classes will reeeeally give me a good workout. make me sweat a lot.

[danjutsu]

Originally Posted by Koutaishi

Okay, total idiot here, but how does Wing Chun differ from Kung Fu? Is there a historical period where it branches off, or is it the "parent" of Kung Fu?

Kung-Fu or Gung-fu is a generic term that applies to any specialised skill that requires long and dedicated training. Various names of Chinese Martial art Kung-Fu have different meanings particular to the history, location, religion, family or style of movement. Interestingly many of the styles where developed to counter another style i.e my Tiger Claw can whoop your White Eyebrow (Pak-Mai).

[Mork]

Originally Posted by Koutaishi

Okay, total idiot here, but how does Wing Chun differ from Kung Fu? Is there a historical period where it branches off, or is it the "parent" of Kung Fu?

Wing chun is a derivative art of Shaolin Crane System and Snake Style with what seems to be a bit of old English pugilism thrown in

[m09k]

I 've read this thread about wing chun, i found it interesting and I'd like to share it here's the link.