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Old March 15th, 2008, 10:15 AM
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after my last post i thought maybe i should clarify it so here is a clip i found.
it gives you an idea, remember these guys have probably been doing this for about 4-8 hours already, you have your dry fire then your blank then your live fire, then after you have done all of this you get to start all over in the shoot house.
so heres a sample.

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i am still confussed..... what is the point of this? how does it differ from just doing target practice. i understand that it is more formal because it is a group training exercise, but are there other benefits? what is "dry fire" and why do you use blanks and live fire?
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OK the point to these drills are to make target acquisition a reflex it also must be done so that you are not flagging your team member with the muzzle of your weapon, just like any martial arts there is a stance that you must have to gain the optimum effect, thus when out on the battle field you only have so much ammo you kinda want every round to count. the purpose of dry fire ( firring without ammo) is to teach the fine motor skills needed to perform the actions safely without worry of someone new shooting someone in the back. blank fire is a rehearsal before you do a live fire run through of the shoot house, typically you're team or squad is moving in and out of different formations when moving in an urban area, its a living thing, and when you enter a building things get really tight and the room for error in none.you cant enter through a doorway with your weapon at the ready and safety off or youll shoot you buddy in the back Murphy's law what can go wrong will go wrong. and these tedious tasks are there to insure safety and that every soldier going to the battle field is up to pare and in control of there weapons. there is some clips of them doing a blank run in the shoot house and you can see mistakes and the soldier getting corrected. sorry about the long post but this is a very brief description with out making a video and showing all the fine points myself,hmm, no I'm not that savvy on the PC.
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that really clears things up... thanks
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Reflexive fire training provides the fundamental skills required to conduct short-range marksmanship. It involves the practical application of all four of the fundamentals of SRM. All soldiers must receive a go on the task Conduct reflexive Firing, before proceeding with training. Reflexive firing should be conducted as refresher training as often as possible to insure that soldier's skills are always at the highest level. This is a perishable skill that must be constantly reinforced.
a. Reflexive Firing Targets. Targets can be locally purchased (FBI style) or manufactured by the unit (bowling pin tagets). E-type silhouttes may be painted as shown in Figure 7-38.

b. Range Setup. The range must be at least 25 meters in length with identification marks at the 5-, 10-, 15-, and 25-meter distances. Each lane should be marked in a way that prevents cross firing between lanes. A lane safety-coach is assigned to each lane to observe and evaluate the soldier's performance as well as ensure the safe conduct of firing, All firing cues are given by the tower or line safety.

c. Conduct of Training. Each soldier will conduct a dry-fire exercise and a blank-fire exercise prior to conducting the live-fire exercise. The dry-fire and blank-fire exercises will give the soldier the repetition needed to successfully engage targets quickly and accurately. Soldiers start at the 25-meter line at the low ready facing the targets. The soldier is then told the engagement position (for example, facing left, turn right) and, once in position, is given the cue to fire. The soldier must, on cue, assume the proper firing position and stance, place the selector lever on semi, use the correct aiming technique for the target's distance, (italics mine) and enage the target. After engaging the target the soldier will continue to cover the target to reinforce firing until the threat is eliminated. Rounds fired after the time standard will be scored as a miss. The number of rounds fired after the time standard will be subtracted from the total number of hits the soldier has scored. The soldier will be evaluated on a "GO/NO GO" basis based on the standards in the training and evaluation outline (TE&O) and scoring table. Soldiers must complete a blank fire iteration before being allowed to live fire.

(1)Each soldier will identify and engage the proper targets at ranges from 5 to 25 meters from the stationary position, while turning and walking. Soldiers must score a GO on the familiarization firing tables (Table 7-3 and Table 7-4, page 7-44) before attempting to qualify.

NOTE: All rounds must impact on the E-type silhoutte. Hits are defined as being in the lethal zone (bowling pin).

(2)All tables are fired at night, with and without protective mask, and using automatic fire for familiarization. The tables are also fired using night vision devices. The standard for protective mask firing is 60 percent day and 50 percent night. Unit commanders should conduct training continually to first establish and then sustain levels of proficiency in reflexive firing.
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OK the point to these drills are to make target acquisition a reflex it also must be done so that you are not flagging your team member with the muzzle of your weapon, just like any martial arts there is a stance that you must have to gain the optimum effect, thus when out on the battle field you only have so much ammo you kinda want every round to count. the purpose of dry fire ( firring without ammo) is to teach the fine motor skills needed to perform the actions safely without worry of someone new shooting someone in the back. blank fire is a rehearsal before you do a live fire run through of the shoot house, typically you're team or squad is moving in and out of different formations when moving in an urban area, its a living thing, and when you enter a building things get really tight and the room for error in none.you cant enter through a doorway with your weapon at the ready and safety off or youll shoot you buddy in the back Murphy's law what can go wrong will go wrong.
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